Joe Kissell joined host Chuck Joiner on MacVoices to talk about Take Control of Ventura.
In part one, Joe talks about why he thinks Ventura is a comparatively minor upgrade and what to be aware of before installing it.
In part two, Joe goes further into some of the features he likes and dislikes in Ventura and talks bout future Take Control updates (and why asking when an update is going to appear actually makes it take longer).